Automation Parameter for Ableton Live 7?

[Alextronica]

He guys I have to say Chipsounds really stuck a cord with me when I first heard it. I was so impressed that I bought it right there on the spot. Compliments to the designers! I proud to have this as the secret sauce of my sound.

I'm using it as a AU plug-in in Ableton Live 7 and Sad to say I found that you can not Automation any on the parameters of this synth expect the on /off.

Is this the case for all DAW's or is it an Ableton Live flaw.

Sound I be using the VST version?

I'm hoping you'll be able to change that with a future release.

Thanks again for all your hard work.

[Alextronica]

Ok update here

I found that you guys set the Parameters to predefined CC#.

This is great indeed. So Im getting closer. Know I just need to find how to Automate CC# in arrangement mode of Ableton Live.

I'll be back.

[Alextronica]

Alright that didnt take so long

It turns out that you can automate those CC via each individual MIDI clip

I was use to automating Parameters Via the drop down menus per track of a given MIDI track in Ableton. Same thing is just you need to look in the clip Envelope for the automation parameters.

Now how about the Apeggiator's or the Wave Sequence or the Reverb?

I love this Synth Plaugue Tons of Thanks!

[Alextronica]

Alright back again I just found in the manual your reason for not feeding you parameters to a DAW.

Ok fair enough

There still some open CC# could I at least get for some of the parameters in the appreggiator? Things like tempo. You have to admit you can some killer sound by moving that knob and the fact it doesnt have a CC mean's I can't even put it on a knob on my Novation Remote SL. Please?

Thanks for putting up me!

[davidv]

Things like tempo. You have to admit you can some killer sound by moving that knob and the fact it doesnt have a CC mean's I can't even put it on a knob on my Novation Remote SL. Please?

Thanks for putting up me!

hi

yes the parameter vs CC debate is far from over, i know.
in a future version you will be able to automate the first slot using normal parameters.

as far as the tempo, i guess it could be made a cc/param for both the arp and the waveseq.

thanks!

[Alextronica]

Thanks tons David

I think the CC thing is fine Its different from other Soft Synths I've tried but I can still do the automation thats fun for compositions with CC's. Im sure its easier for you to just program the CC's.

I will run into a problem when I start using two oscillator in a patch. They both use CC2 for example. I don't think you be able to get around that problem with CC's. My DAW Ableton does let me specify the CC's on a per MIDI channel basis so I dont think MIDI channles would be a viable asnwers.

Im not sure how the other synths handle that as I only have NI's Massive and Abletons Operator. Both are much different than Chipsounds.

Good Luck and Thanks once again.

I love these sounds!

[seb@plogue]

My DAW Ableton does let me specify the CC's on a per MIDI channel basis so I dont think MIDI channles would be a viable asnwers.

IIRC, in order to send MIDI to a different channel in Live you need to create a MIDI track and set it to Channel x.

[Alextronica]

Thanks Seb I do see that but ...

If I have two Oscillator running in Chipsounds and they both have a parameter on CC2. How would you automate one oscillator's CC2 to be different than the other Oscillator's CC2?

Do you see what I'm saying.

Sure my Daw will recieve MIDI channel 13 but if I automate CC2 then both Oscillator's CC2 parameters will be affected.

The only solution is that you should only use 1 oscillator at a time. I read in the manual that you really shouldn't use more than 4-5 oscillators at a time. But there are 8 slots so you can switch sounds easily in a performance. The only problem I have with that is the mutes for each oscillator slot aren't assignable. It'd be really nice if the mutes have defined CC's so I could assign them to buttons on my MIDI Contoller.

Thanks so much guys.

[davidv]

Hi

If you want to automate two slots each with CC2 in them separately, you need to make sure both slots are not "OM" (omni), but on separate channels. however , if you want both slots to play the exact same notes, you will have to dupicalte the MIDI notes on two channels as well.