lookup table in media

[boonier]

Just wondering what the possibility of having the lookup tables data in a global location so that all the lookup table object reference the media pool? I have a fm instrument that is polyphonic but editing the oscillator tables on the fly is pretty much impossible as one has to edit as many tables as there are voices. Also it takes rather longer to poly the group as I suspect the data is being duplicated for all voices too.

Of course being able to edit them in the media pool would be useful too....unless there's another solution?

[seb@plogue]

You could use wave files and then change the selected file from the poly'ed group UI but that wouldn't give you editing.

What would work is having the 512 params exported to the group with No UI and then have a lookup table on the side where the 512 params are linked to the poly'ed group one.

[jersmi]

I am about to do this -- assuming that turning polyphony off/on or changing the number of poly voices will break parameter links?

[boonier]

It seems the p links stay intact, although I dont relish the thought of linking 512 parameters though!

[boonier]

It seems the p links stay intact, although I dont relish the thought of linking 512 parameters though!

Armed with a code editor, actually not too bad. As long as you locate the right linkages and adhere to the UID of the source and target!

[jersmi]

good one on using the text editor. that's why i had not jumped in.

[jersmi]

Here I reveal the depths of my laziness. I owe it to you, boonier.
Here's a little app to automate this linking process. (Alpha version, but it's so simple should work fine on 10.6 and 10.7). Set the producer/listener UID's, set the amount of links, press the button. Generates a txt file with the list that can be pasted into place in the .bidule file. Mac only. Includes ReadMe.

plinkGen.zip

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I used the app for this demo layout using Seb's method above.

LUT FM.bidule

(699.33 KiB) Downloaded 44 times

[dts350z]

I'm not near a mac right now and couldn't even unzip that on a PC. Just curious as to weather you wrote a compiled program or used some type of scripting language?

I guess what I'm getting at is I would like to see the source

Manipulating .bidule files outside of bidule is something I have resorted to from time to time (with varying degrees of success), and would like to have more tools to add to the toolbox.

Sorry for the "thread-jack"

[jersmi]

Well, since I am not a programmer, I have to cheat. I used the node based OSX graphics dev tool Quartz Composer and 3rd party software from kineme.net called Quartz Builder which packages a QC comp as an app. I am happy to share, but I am not exactly sure how to get you the source code. I think it is possible but I never touch Xcode. I can send you the QC comp .qtz file if you like. Basically takes the Bidule xml param link string and substitutes vars for the Id's, iterates and queues the new list, unpacks the list "structure" using a bit of javascript and exports it as a .txt file using another kineme plugin. Quartz Composer obviously also allows me to create the GUI. For example I have a "button" macro.

[jersmi]

confirmed -- unpolyphonizing the group after param links are made can break the links.

[boonier]

So are you making the param links when the group in polyphonised, or when it isn't? I think when I did my test the linkages were made before I made it polyphonic.

I must try your handy tools out; I've been out of this for a few days !

[boonier]

I wonder what the conditions are for this to happen...I just re-tested on my group and the links remained intact

[jersmi]

actually me, too. discovered that it worked, worked, worked, broke.

EDIT: i polyphonized the group, created all the parameter links, then when unpolyphonizing to edit the group the links broke.

[seb@plogue]

I wonder what the conditions are for this to happen...

I think I fixed all cases and links should be preserved
(unpolyphonize being the main culprit but there was at least another case of undo/redo)
jersmi: integer variable in groups should also behave better in this version

http://www.plogue.com/seb/PlogueBidulePOLY.zip

[jersmi]

Seb! you're the best.